I continued to suffer pain for almost another year, before going to a chiropractor, where I was first x-rayed, then we discussed my history. Ample scriptures indicate that they will appear as ministers of the gospel, not ministers of the enemy. His legal team also told us that if the original charge against him was overstaying his Visa, it would be irregular for him to be arrested by FBI agents from the Joint Terrorism Task Force, and not Immigration agents. He carries the burden of a broken heart. The Cross - Only the Death Sentence Will Avail is lacking. I dont see anyone in Wierdsville multiplying wine, walking on water, etc etc ( and whatever other miracles Lightning mentioned ) . Just think, the ark of the covenant was not permitted to be handled with hands of flesh, it had to be carried with poles, and not even just any poles, because it was HOLY. To complete your salvation? Torben is the real deal because he seeks Christ and Christ alone. The False Unholy Spirit of Fire, Torben Sndergaard Last Reformation of Lies, Gift of Speaking in Tongues, Prophecy and Healing. These two are Gods fool proof acid tests . He touched the ear of the servant of the high priest. There is no excuse for making such premature judgments and posting them in post after post in public. And treat His holy things as HOLY? They watched how the Lord sent them into the Land and took victory over and over. Jhn 17:15 NASB I do not ask You to take them out of the world, but (I ask You) TO KEEP THEM FROM THE EVIL ONE. So I have no problem with that. Jesusanswered,Verily,verily,I sayunto thee,Excepta manbe bornofwaterandofthe Spirit,he cannotenterintothe kingdomof God. Why fear testing if what you say is true. Thank you Roger for letting us know he`s OK. Tell him he is missed & know that God is with him. I just read Luke 7 where Jesus raises the widows son from the dead and great fear and rejoicing fell on all the crowd. Seymour replied, Im just upset because you have the wooden leg on. Evangelist Torben Sondergaard As a national threat for bringing firearms into the country, Torben Sondergaard was detained. All I was doing was pointing out that the video evidence alone doesnt prove what it purports to prove. QUIT TRYING TO PUT HIM IN A BOX OF YOUR OWN MAKING. If there is one charlatan, then they rebuke all who perform wonders and healings in the Name of Jesus. Indeed we are one body, a living organsim, having one head (Lord Jesus), with the body having many diverse members, each with differing giftings and callings, as determined by the one Holy Spirit. And he put his hand into his bosom again; and plucked it out of his bosom, and, behold, it was turned again as his [other] flesh. There is another guy in the pool at 2:34 min who is convulsing in the water this is Kundalini electricity. 1) to be fearful, be dreadful, be feared Yeshua needs no tricksters who appear to stretch out a leg to be a half inch longer. We are committed to delivering quality independent Christian journalism you can trust. Jhn 17:12 NASB While I was with them, I WAS KEEPING THEM in Your name which You have given Me; and I guarded them and not one of them perished but the son of perdition, so that the Scripture would be fulfilled. God is doing a work in all believers. He claims that " about 90 percent of all the people, that he or others in his team pray for, are healed". But all praise and glory be to Christ Jesus our Lord who has conquered the lion who prowls around seeking who he may devour! HOW NOT TO GAIN ENTRANCE THROUGH HEAVENS GATES? Theres talk of not judging, unless you know the person, but then no one here knows me, yet judges me. He is SUPERNATURAL AND MYSTERIOUS. Foras many of you ashave been baptizedintoChristhave put onChrist. Dit is jammer dat jy nie vanuit my, Seeing that you are in South Africa, and you and, Hullo Tom. He was baptized as a baby in the state church and later confirmed, but it was only because of tradition. Even the BABES HAVE THE HOLY SPIRIT. Personally i believe the great commission reflects the exact words used by Holy Spirit though Peter in Act 2:37-38, because those Jews were Cut to the heart(Joe 2:13), their only hope was to The MOLECULES in Jesus body dis-assembled and went through a wall and then re-assembled. No one has to prove to you that people got healed , Dont you know that? Sndergaard also read scripture as part of his defense to show how he was following Christ's commands, making the Bible part of the case record. I am very wary of Him, indeed. To reveal Christ to us in Revelation, there are 330 references to the figures, shadows, types, patterns, persons & buildings of the Old Testament. You see, people have been so in the habit of putting Jesus in a class by Himself that they have failed to recognize that He has made provision for the same living Spirit of God that dwelt in His own life, and of which He Himself was a living manifestation, to inhabit your being and mine, just as the Spirit inhabited the being of Jesus or Paul. John spoke of this again in 1Jo 5:8 Agreed Andrew.avoid those who 2Tim3v5,,,,have a form of godliness but deny the power.we need miracles and healings etc .and oh how we need discerning of spirits to get delivered from the power of darkness and lazy religious demons.. Jesus hasnt changed! VIDEO MIRACLES AT WALMART Please Watch!! Got kids?Yes.This man needs to be able to make a living. He told us that He is our ONLY Teacher Matthew 23:8-10; and the 5 fold ministry He has gifted to His Body, is Him, so let us seek His understanding to find out who are those of Him and those who are false 5 fold ministers.. It would be far too obvious if someone were to claim to be Jesus, to dismiss them. In 2003, Torben Sndergaard invited the controversial tele-evangelist and faith healerTodd Bentleyto Denmark[34]. Is that ever the truth! I am currently looking for people who got involved in The Last Reformation or with Torben Sondergaard (its leader). The Holy Spirit & His Word agree. He looked up at me with joy and surprise and, springing to his feet, said, Praise the Lord, John, Jesus has baptized you in the Holy Ghost!. 1Co 6:11 b) to fear, be afraid `And beginning with Moses & with all the prophets, He (Jesus) explained to them the things concerning Himself in all the scriptures.` (Luke 24: 27). But as Teshuva said the enemy will come to try and destroy the works of God, it is not a matter of if, it is only a matter of when, so it is a kindness when the enemy is seen coming in the distance that someone warns of it. Jonathan, as a born again believer/a Christian, I eagerly await the soon return of the Lord Jesus Christ WHO IS returning for me/us/ Christians, to take us to the mansions that He has prepared for us (John 14:2), Paul said Past revivals, like doves dung, are excellent fertilizer as we study its revelations, but we are to SEEK FRESH REVELATION in each generation. The Key is always Humility and most importantly Giving God all the Glory. Rom 3:23 KJV For all have sinned, and COME SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD; In other words.you have failed to manifest the tangible Presence of God and His Nature. Thank you for the work put into the site, and sharing the vast amount of information & your in depth work regarding movements and doctrines that have steered off to the left or to the right, or gone astray following traditions of men or doctrines of demons and basically fallen short of the WAY, TRUTH & LIFE of Jesus our Lord and Savior. My answer is simple Jesus never copied ANYONE. I simply yielded to what Jesus wanted to do in that household! https://friendsoftorben.comINTERVIEW WITH DR. BROWNhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Bhiwc_nm_UOUR MOVIEShttps://thelastreforma. This supernatural revival among the normal ordinary folk that I prophesied about is waiting for us to cease from our religious striving, place all our hope and confidence in Jesus alone plus nothing of ourselves, surrender and yield to the Holy Spirit who will come like a pent up flood when we do. That is what makes it an exciting journey. Let God arise and let His enemies be scattered ! Later, an ICE spokesman told CBN News that Sndergaard was arrested for overstaying his visa. Marilyn, thank you, I appreciate your concernI havent finished reading it yet.usually when I read a thing I just glean what I need to glean, and dont necessarily take in the whole thing. Sndergaard's immigration trial has been set for December 13. Im really excited about God doing miracles in EvangelismBut like someone else already pointed out: Shouldnt one also combine these Healings with the Gospel of Repentance? I have just posted (Luke 22: 51) Awesome testimony, Barry Schmidt. The basis for the healing rooms training, techniques, and charge of admission is not found in the Bible. And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising. Jesus is 100% God but He also was and is and always will be a very easy and normal MAN and to live with. People who obsess about theological nuances like demonic possession and baptism tend to produce the same division they are complaining about. You know where I think people get this idea.from watching TV evangelists. And Jesus said, Who touched Me? When all denied it, Peter and those with him said, Master, the multitudes throng and press You, and You say, Who touched Me? But Jesus said, Somebody touched Me, for I perceived power going out from Me.. I think a lot of people need to repent. He believes he is a self appointed apostle with a Last Reformation belief system. Torben has been in jail since his arrest when authorities shackled him hand and foot like a terrorist. I have never see one video (much less the one with Torben) providing evidence of objective healings. Judge Yon Alberdi, an appointee of Obama Attorney General Eric Holder, ruled Sndergaard did not meet the requirements for asylum. Many have come to Christ, have been delivered, and healed of physical ailments. The first video is very bad. 12..mainly that people try to put their brothers and sisters into a box, a box made in their own image. Again something inside me drive me to ask if she was related to someone who had a 275 pound tumor. Where do you get your identity? Amen., jda016 Jonathon, at one time B.Johnson of Bethel, denied the deity of Christ Jesus our Lord thereby teaching a false christ, a different Jesus. This video speaks of the amazing things that happen when you take new believers out healing the sick, preaching and baptizing, etc. Jesus said greater works than these shall you do! Sndergaard and his family fled Denmark in 2019, fearing persecution and arrest following a harassment campaign by the government and media. You are so hungry for the real thing that any little trick will do. Amen!!!! OH HOW MUCH EASIER IT IS TO BELIEVE A BOOK, THAN A REAL LIVE PERSON! Paul needed these disciples to preach in the area and therefore laid hands on them and the Holy Spirit came upon them and they spoke with tongues(earthly languages) and prophesied. Philip TELEPORTED. Exd 4:6 KJV And the LORD said furthermore unto him, Put now thine hand into thy bosom. Is God feeling ambivalent about those healings when He led Korban to record them? Why cant people see this? Yes, the Todd Bentley type situation has made people skeptical in a more overt sense, however the discomfort with many issues rooted in spiritual deception in the practice and structure of christianity, already existed. Jesus shows us TRUE FAITH. What you said is correct. I dont know. Christ is displayed as being relatively, legally, morally & judicially qualified to uphold & maintain the will, the Word, the wisdom, & the work of God. We cannot just be focused on what is wrong. This means we ALREADY HAVE THIS REVIVAL LIGHT OF JESUS IN US SHINING! hesitate) to do something (for fear of harm) There were plenty of opportunities for this to be mentioned in the New Testament, but we never see it happening. Die letzte Reformation (berarbeitete Neuausgabe 2020) - Buch (Paperback) von Sndergaard, Torben | GloryWorld-Medien | Besuchen Sie uns online unter www.buchhaus.ch oder in einer unserer Buchhandlungen. He said that it would not only be one or two places, but it would be all over the country. He sold all he had, quit his job and moved to Redding California, in what he thought was faith, to get his wife healed. In order to test the spirits, I am compelled to ask why in the hearings in this video, doesnt God use ones like He did in the NTthat are without question? Those who want to be deceived will be deceived. In fact, without them spread the word! As of 2022, Lene is currently 46 years old and was born on April 5, 1976. Thank you for the clarification Andrew! Watchful..I found where Paul makes that statement about FEARING for the church in Corinth. Exd 4:3 KJV And he said, Cast it on the ground. It is finished. This man needs to work and he needs to be able to pay his tithe. I would point also to Mathew 24:24 where Jesus says that even the elect will be deceived by false prophets performing signs and wonders. They would not exercise faith and do works of the Spirit to glorify God, but rather prevent unbelievers from entering in. But that needs to be tempered the way Jesus tempered it, otherwise there is the danger of being made into a king, and then all simplicity is lost. step 4. None of these biblical miracles are present in WIERDSVILLE only out of control laughter, strange behaviors, hyper spirituality and complete powerless human sorcery . Dont put yourself in the same category of those who want to justify the legitimacy of something by the numbers of people who follow it. In 2011, he started the evangelical Christian movement known . Mar 9:39 KJV But Jesus said, Forbid him not: FOR THERE IS NO MAN WHICH SHALL DO A MIRACLE IN MY NAME, THAT CAN LIGHTLY SPEAK EVIL OF ME. The Holy Spirit does the preparing of the soil of peoples hearts. Unfortunately, all we have to test the spirits with is the video. Romans 6-8 Christs Kingdom is under the control of Jesus and all who are in it obey Him. Final thought to underline what I wrote earlier. i What I am understanding is that the right hand needs to forget what the left hand is doing, otherwise its a slippery slide away from simplicity down into spiritual harlotry, and turning the simple, holy things and gifts of God into a circus. I honestly dont consider my understanding of this to be fully formed yet (ie, interpreting/understanding scripture) so Im reluctant to even try to discuss it in writing until I have a better grasp of things. Please check your information and try again or call us at 1-800-759-0700. Just because Torben says he is doing this in the name of Jesus, doesnt mean he is actually doing it in the name of Jesus. Are FEARMONGERS walking by the Holy Spirit? forward into the True thing. But God has` His keys,`for studying His Word. If we should respect simple grammar and honour the first mentioned in sentences, it means that one must first be saved by water before you can receive the Holy Spirit. I agree jda, we ought to be leary of people like Bill Johnson. I DOUBT IT! Torben opens himself up to such testing be posting these videos. This move of God will be marked by love, unselfconscious holiness, fullness of joy and deep loyalty to Jesus and to each other . That is why we need to take care when posting our judgmental thoughts without first checking things out properly. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. There is no time like the present. He claims that about 90 percent of all the people, that he or others in his team pray for, are healed. Each and every one of us A bush that burns but is never consumed Marilyn. I havent once *attacked* anyone, or been negative. Thank you Lord Jesus! visions and miracles should be absolutely EXPECTED as a Cynicism is the mask of discernment hiding a heart of bitterness and unbelief . A Florida immigration judge has denied evangelist Torben Sndergaard's request for asylum. At the meeting, Sndergaard says he was accused by FBI agents of smuggling weapons into the U.S. from Mexico, a claim hewholeheartedly denies, and placed in handcuffs. I promised her I did not get your email but will ask about it on the forum as I will also love it, as she said she is finding it difficult to post , not sure of the cause. JeffM, I never called anyone a liar, nor did I say these people werent healed. Circumcision was not a foreshadow of water baptism. For all those caught up in this demonic mess and want to be set free please read this article: Seeking Salvation or Deliverance? Torben is actually seeing it work IN PRACTICE. Aarons rod that buddedmiraculously. I see a specific calling for healing on his life for street ministry. Such a sad time. The government then investigated the Sndergaard family when they began homeschooling. I think it is entirely possible that Holy Spirit may answer the prayers and heal the person involved as a means of authenticating the message of the Gospel. he works through us and not we ourselves. I will continue to respect you for that. As of about 2022, Lene is now 46 years old and born on April 5, 1976. Bob Jones is the guy who told Todd Bentley about Emma the angel. (Bearing I mind I can only talk about it in accordance with my gift, others like scribes might be able to go into in greater depth and detail etc, but for me I have to keep it simple, and that is ok I think because different gifts have different benefits.). Also available on most smart TVs and streaming services. weird, eerie, uncanny mean mysteriously strange or fantastic. Consider how different Torben's Jesus is from the Jesus in the Scriptures. 2023 The Christian Broadcasting Network, Inc., A nonprofit 501 (c)(3) Charitable Organization. Yeshua is not returning for Christians He is only returning for His sheep who hear His voice and follow Him. www.TheLastReformation.com Torben Sndergaard | Orlando FL If a man comes performing miracles in Jesus name but preaches idols- money, ambition, love of the world and anything in the world money, sensuality, power or selfish ambition- THAT MAN IS A WOLF! In fact, doesnt it say that we most certainly shouldnt do that, and then call it of God? In the Name of Jesus, I command this leg to grow out. he was encouraging the early church to return to the FIRE OF GOD thay had when the church was BORN IN ACTS 2 after the preaching of Gods word lifting up Jesus and the Father sent the Gift as promised. Jesus did a lot of disappearing acts.TELEPORTATION. Tyrone Palmer- amen bro! I believe what Torben is doing is just the tip of the iceberg of what is to come. 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